Plan Review Notes
Plan Review Notes For Permit 16100364
Permit Number 16100364
Review Stop B
Sequence Number 1
Notes
Date Text
2016-11-01 09:12:17****CORRECTIONS****
  
 SAMANTHA HILL
 BUILDING PLANS EXAMINER
 [email protected]
 561-805-6724
  
 1. FBC 1609, FASTENING PATTERN TO RESIST WIND LOADS IS
 NOT CLEAR.
  
 THE SPECIFICATION STATES THAT THIS REQUIRES SIX PER
 LOGO LETTER, TWO PER SMALL LETTER. PLAN DOES NOT
 PROVIDE THE SIZE OF THE "SMALL" LETTER. IT IS DEPICTED
 GRAPHICALLY BUT NOT SPECIFIED, SO IT IS NOT CLEAR
 WHETHER OR NOT TWO ARE ADEQUATE. FOR INSTANCE, SEE THE
 LETTERS W, R, S, M.
  
 2. CLARIFY SPEC FOR LOGO; PLAN SPECIFIES SIX FASTENERS,
 BUT DOES NOT INDICATE WHERE THEY SHOULD BE PLACED, FBC
 1609. THE LOGO IS APPROXIMATELY 16 SQUARE FEET. THE
 LOCATION OF THE FASTENERS IS NOT CLEAR. THE WIDTH OF
 PARTS OF THE SIGN IS NOT CLEAR (FOR INSTANCE, THE END
 OF THE "F" AND THE BOTTOM END OF THE "S"). ARE THEY
 WIDE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE A FASTENER? IF NOT, HOW WHAT
 IS THE MAXIMUM DIMENSION FOR THE CANTILEVER? AS THIS
 INSTALLTION INCLUDES SPACERS, IT APPEARS THAT THE ENDS
 OF THE LETTERS WILL BE CANTILEVERED (UNSUPPORTED). THE
 WAY THE SPEC IS WRITTEN, ALL OF THE FASTENERS CAN BE
 INSTALLED INTO ONE LETTER; IS THIS ADEQUATE? DUE TO THE
 CONFIGURATION OF THE LETTERS, A SPEC SUCH AS "EVENLY
 SPACED" WOULD NOT CLARIFY. A FASTENING PATTERN HAS BEEN
 SUGGESTED IN A PRIOR CONVERSATION. ANY SPECIFICATION
 WHICH IS CLEAR TO INSTALLER AND INSPECTOR WOULD BE
 ACCEPTED.
  
 3. THE LOGO AND LETTER DIMENSIONS (OTHER THAN OVERALL)
 WERE NOT PROVIDED. AS THIS SPEC ALLOWS THE CONTRACTOR
 TO SELECT HIS FASTENING PATTERN AT HIS OWN JUDGEMENT,
 IS THERE AN EDGE DISTANCE REQUIREMENT FOR THE STUD
 PLACEMENT IN RELATION TO THE EDGE OF THE ALUMINUM SIGN?
 HOW MUCH ALUMINUM IS REQUIRED TO SUPPORT THE STUD WHEN
 AFFECTED BY WIND LOADS?
  
 3. CLARIFY A HOW CONCRETE SUBSTRATE WAS DETERMINED.
 CITY RECORDS (WHICH MAY BE INCORRECT DUE TO THE AGE OF
 THIS BUILDING) SHOW THIS AS CONCRETE BLOCK. FBC 107,
 FBC 1609. IF THE SUBSTRATE IS NOT CONCRETE, IT IS NOT
 CLEAR HOW THIS WOULD AFFECT THE FASTENER (1/4" X 20
 ALUMINUM STUDS 4" LONG). WILL A 4" EMBEDMENT STILL BE
 REQUIRED IF THE SUBSTRATE IS BLOCK? WILL ADDITIONAL
 FASTENERS BE REQUIRED?
  
 4. FASTENER SPECIFIED NOT CLEAR. "ALUMINUM STUDS" - ARE
 THEY ALL THE SAME STRENGTH OF ALUMINUM? A GOOGLE SEARCH
 OF "ALUMINUM STUDS" DID NOT PROVIDE INFORMATION.
 WITHOUT ANCHOR SPECS (BRAND, EVALUATION REPORT), HOW
 CAN IT BE DETERMINED WHETHER OR NOT DERATING IS
 APPLICABLE, HOW CAN MINIMUM SPACING BE DETERMINED, HOW
 CAN THE NUMBER REQUIRED BE DETERMINED? SINCE SIZE OF
 LETTERS IS NOT CLEAR, IT IS NOT CLEAR WHETHER OR NOT
 THIS IS APPLICABLE.
  
 5. INSTALLATION METHOD OF THE SIGN TO THE WALL IS NOT
 CLEAR. THE PLAN SPECIFIES AN ALUMINUM STUD THREADED
 INTO A FLAT ALUMINUM LETTER. GRAPHICALLY A SPACER OR
 NUT IS SHOWN, BUT NOT SPECIFIED. WHAT IS THIS? IF A NUT
 OR SPACER, WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THIS NUT OR SPACER? DOES
 IT MATTER? IT IS NOT CLEAR HOW FAR OFF OF THE WALL THE
 LETTERS ARE PROPOSED TO BE INSTALLED. IT APPEARS THAT A
 1" SPACER WILL ALLOW MORE WIND BELOW THE SIGN THAN A
 1/8" SPACER.
  
 6. THE PLAN DOES NOT SPECIFY HOW DEEP THE THREAD
 EMBEDMENT INTO THE 1/4" THICK SIGN WILL BE. IS THERE A
 MINIMUM THREAD REQUIREMENT? PLANS ARE TO BE TO SCALE
 (SEE FBC 107, QUALITY OF PLANS). THE GRAPHIC DEPICTS
 THE STUD THREADED INTO THE ALUMINUM LETTER LESS THAN
 1/8" (LESS THAN HALF THE THICKNESS OF THE ALUMINUM
 PLATE). BASED ON THE GRAPHIC PROVIDED, IT APPEARS THAT
 THERE WILL BE TWO OR LESS THREAD EMBEDMENT, IS THIS
 ADEQUATE? DOES THE NUMBER OF THREADS INTO THE LETTER
 MATTER?
  
 7. HIGH STRENGTH GE SILICONE OR EQUIVALENT WAS
 SPECIFIED. WITHOUT A SPECIFIC PRODUCT NAME (RATHER THAN
 BRAND AND TYPE) AND A STRENGTH SPEC, THIS SPECIFICATION
 DOES NOT APPEAR ADEQUATE, FBC 1609, FBC 107.
  
 8. THE ISSUE OF AN INCOMPLETE SPECIFICATION HAS BEEN
 DISCUSSED WITH THIS ENGINEER. IF CALCULATIONS SHOW THAT
 THE NUMBER OF FASTENERS SPECIFIED IS ADEQUATE, THE
 PATTERN OF THE FASTENERS INSTALLED AFFECTS THE ABILITY
 OF THE SIGN LETTERS OR COMPONENTS TO RESIST WIND LOADS
 FBC 1609. THE CONTRACTOR AND INSPECTOR RELY ON THE
 PLAN, BUT THE PLAN IS NOT CLEAR, FBC 107.
  
 THE FACT THAT THE RISK TO LIFE IN THE EVENT OF FAILURE
 IS NOT GREAT IS ACKNOWLEDGED. HOWEVER, IF ENGINEERING
 IS REQUIRED AND PROVIDED, ENGINEERING SHOULD BE
 ADEQUATE. IT APPEARS THAT THERE IS NO PRACTICAL PURPOSE
 OF ENGINEERING WHICH DOES NOT PROVIDE A SPECIFICATION.
  
  
  
  
  


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