Plan Review Notes
Plan Review Notes For Permit 14020179
Permit Number 14020179
Review Stop P
Sequence Number 2
Notes
Date Text
2014-05-02 12:27:26PLUMBING PLAN REVIEW
 PERMIT: 14020179
 PCN: 00-42-43-24-00-000-5251
 P. B. C. TO BE ANNEXED
 ADD: 2321 INDIAN RD VS. 2131 INDIAN RD
 CONT: CREATIVE CONTRACTING GROUP
 TEL: (561)333-1445
  
 2010 FLORIDA BUILDING CODE W
 * 2010 WEST PALM BEACH AMENDMENTS TO THE FLORIDA
 BUILDING CODE, CHAPTER 1, ADMINISTRATION, 2010 EDITION
 2012 FBC SUPPLEMENTS ADOPTED APRIL 25/2013.
  
 2010 EXISTING BUILDING CODE LEVEL II 701.3
 COMPLIANCE. ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS, COMPONENTS,
 SYSTEMS, AND SPACES SHALL COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS
 OF THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, BUILDING.
  
 2ND REVIEW
 DATE:FRIDAY APRIL 02/ 2014
 ACTION: DENIED
  
 1-2) COMPLIED. SHEET S7 INDICATES THE OCCUPANCY AS A F1
 LIGHT AUTO REPAIR/ USED TIRE SALE, PLEASE REVIEW 2010
 FBC-B 406.6 REPAIR GARAGES ARE SPECIAL OCCUPANCIES
 LISTED AS A S2.
  
 3) 2ND REQUEST. THE SANITARY PLANS ARE DRAWN USING A
 WET VENT SYSTEM. WATER CLOSETS, AND SERVICE SINKS DO
 NOT HAVE VENTS. SEE 2010 FBC-PLUMBING
 907.1 INDIVIDUAL VENT PERMITTED.
 EACH TRAP AND TRAPPED FIXTURE IS PERMITTED TO BE
 PROVIDED WITH AN INDIVIDUAL VENT. THE INDIVIDUAL VENT
 SHALL CONNECT TO THE FIXTURE DRAIN OF THE TRAP OR
 TRAPPED FIXTURE BEING VENTED.
 908.1 INDIVIDUAL VENT AS COMMON VENT.
 AN INDIVIDUAL VENT IS PERMITTED TO VENT TWO TRAPS OR
 TRAPPED FIXTURES AS A COMMON VENT. THE TRAPS OR TRAPPED
 FIXTURES BEING COMMON VENTED SHALL BE LOCATED ON THE
 SAME FLOOR LEVEL.
  
 908.2 CONNECTION AT THE SAME LEVEL.
 WHERE THE FIXTURE DRAINS BEING COMMON VENTED CONNECT AT
 THE SAME LEVEL, THE VENT CONNECTION SHALL BE AT THE
 INTERCONNECTION OF THE FIXTURE DRAINS OR DOWNSTREAM OF
 THE INTERCONNECTION.
  
 908.3 CONNECTION AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.
 WHERE THE FIXTURE DRAINS CONNECT AT DIFFERENT LEVELS,
 THE VENT SHALL CONNECT AS A VERTICAL EXTENSION OF THE
 VERTICAL DRAIN. THE VERTICAL DRAIN PIPE CONNECTING THE
 TWO FIXTURE DRAINS SHALL BE CONSIDERED THE VENT FOR THE
 LOWER FIXTURE DRAIN, AND SHALL BE SIZED IN ACCORDANCE
 WITH TABLE 908.3. THE UPPER FIXTURE SHALL NOT BE A
 WATER CLOSET.
 FLORIDA BUILDING CODE INFORMAL INTERPRETATION:
 DATE: WED DEC 17 2003
 REPORT #: 2241
 CODE: PLUMBING
 SECTION: 909.1
 QUESTION:
 IS IT THE INTENT OF SECTION 909.1 WET VENTING TO
 EXCLUDE URINALS AS A FIXTURE TO BE ALLOW AS PART OF A
 WET
 VENTED SYSTEM?
 ANSWER:
 NO. WET VENTING RELIES ON LOW FLOW VELOCITY, LOW FLOW
 RATES, AND LOW PROBABILITY OF SIMULTANEOUS
 DISCHARGE. FOR THAT REASON, WET VENTING IS LIMITED TO
 TWO BATHROOM GROUPS, LOCATED ON THE SAME FLOOR LEVEL.
 ALTHOUGH A BATHROOM GROUP BY DEFINITION DOES NOT
 INCLUDE URINALS, URINALS MAY BE REGARDED AS SIMILAR IN
 FUNCTION TO WATER CLOSETS (SEE 419.2), AND THEY PLACE
 LESS RELATIVE LOAD ON THE DRAINAGE SYSTEM. URINALS, AS
 WELL AS EMERGENCY FLOOR DRAINS AND DRINKING FOUNTAINS,
 MAY BE INCLUDED IN A WET VENT SYSTEM, WITHIN THE
 LIMITS OF TABLE 909.3. PLEASE NOTE! 12/17/2003-UPON
 CHALLENGE AND FURTHER REVIEW
 THIS INTERPRETATION IS MODIFIED AS FOLLOWS: 1) THE CODE
 PERMITS WET VENTING OF BATHROOM
 GROUPS, 2) THE DEFINITION OF A BATHROOM GROUP DOES NOT
 SPECIFICALLY INCLUDE A URINAL, THEREFORE 3) A URINAL
 MAY NOT BE A PART OF A WET VENT SYSTEM.
 COMMENTARY:
 KITCHEN SINKS, WASHING MACHINES AND SIMILAR HIGHER
 VOLUME FIXTURES WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED ON A WET VENT
 SYSTEM, AND WOULD HAVE TO DISCHARGE DOWNSTREAM OF THE
 WET VENT. 12/17/2003-COMMENTARY
 MODIFICATION: PROPERLY SIZED WET VENTING RESULTS IN
 ADEQUATE AIRFLOW IN THE WET-VENTED PIPE TO
 PREVENT THE FIXTURES FROM BEING SUBJECT TO SIPHONAGE OR
 BACKPRESSURE (PLUS OR MINUS 1-INCH OF WATER
 COLUMN). THE ORIGINAL INTERPRETATION MET THE INTENT, IF
 NOT THE LETTER, OF THE CODE SINCE URINALS HAVE, FOR A
 NUMBER OF YEARS NOW, BEEN LIMITED TO 1 GALLON PER
 FLUSHING CYCLE. AS LONG AS THE WET VENT IS LIMITED TO
 TWO
 BATHROOM GROUPS, THERE IS PROBABLY NO FIELD
 CONFIGURATION CONTAINING A URINAL THAT WOULD POSE A
 PROBLEM
 BUT STRICT APPLICATION OF THE CODE WILL NOT ALLOW IT.
  
 4) COMPLIED.
  
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 SHEET OR SPECIFICATION PAGE WHERE THE CHANGES CAN BE
 FOUND WILL HELP TO EXPEDITE YOUR PERMIT. THANK YOU FOR
 YOUR ANTICIPATED COOPERATION.
  
 JAMES A. WITMER CBO
 SENIOR COMMERCIAL COMBINATION PLANS EXAMINER
 TEL: 561-805-6715
 FAX: 561-805-6676
 E-MAIL: [email protected]
  


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