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Plan Review Details - Permit 22050823

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Review Stop	B			BUILDING (STRUCTURAL)
Rev No	3	Status	P	Date	2022-07-05			Cont ID
Sent By	jwitmer			Date	2022-07-05	Time	15:28	Rev Time	0.00
Received By	jwitmer			Date	2022-07-05	Time	15:10	Sent To

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Rev No	2	Status	F	Date	2022-06-22			Cont ID
Sent By	cthroop			Date	2022-06-22	Time	09:51	Rev Time	0.00
Received By	cthroop			Date	2022-06-17	Time	16:47	Sent To

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2022-06-22 10:24:03	PLAN REVIEW BUILDING

	CHRISTOPHER S. THROOP, C.B.O., CFM
	PLANS EXAMINER II PX3169/SFP306
	BU1635 BN4338
	ASFPM CFM US-21-11935
	CITY OF WEST PALM BEACH
	(561) 805-6726
	[email protected]

	CODES IN EFFECT:
	2020 FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, 7TH EDITION W/2017 WEST
	PALM BEACH AMENDMENTS TO THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE,
	CHAPTER 1 ADMINISTRATION
	NFPA 70 2017 EDITION NEC 2017

	2ND REVIEW

	RESULTS: DENIED
	ADDRESS THE ATTACHED COMMENTS AND RE-SUBMIT

	SOW: PER NOTE ON PAGE A-1 FLOOR PLAN: "INSTALL NEW
	ENGINEERED WOOD FLOORING"

	NOTICE:
	PREVIOUS COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED
	SATISFACTORILY ARE MARKED AS CORRECTED OR REMOVED.
	PREVIOUS COMMENTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED
	SATISFACTORILY MAY HAVE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS IN
	PARENTHESES. ANY NEW COMMENT WILL BE LISTED AFTER
	PREVIOUS COMMENTS.


	1. FLOOR INSULATION/ UNDERLAYMENT (FBC-B 2020) FOR
	TILE, STONE, MARBLE, VINYL (LYT/ LYP), LAMINATE
	FLOORING AND WOOD FLOORING ALL NEED TO HAVE HAD THE
	SOUND UNDERLAYMENT TESTED FLOOR ASSEMBLIES TO THE
	FOLLOWING STANDARDS AND MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS LISTED
	UNDER EACH OF THE STANDARDS FOR A 6 INCH CONCRETE FLOOR
	ASSEMBLY/ NO DROPPED CEILING:
	PLEASE PROVIDE ALL THREE TEST REPORTS FOR TYPE I AND OR
	TYPE II BUILDINGS SHOWING COMPLIANCE WITH:

	1A) FBC-B 2020 1207.3 STRUCTURE-BORNE SOUND.
	FLOOR/CEILING ASSEMBLIES BETWEEN DWELLING UNITS OR
	BETWEEN A DWELLING UNIT AND A PUBLIC OR SERVICE AREA
	WITHIN THE STRUCTURE SHALL HAVE AN IMPACT INSULATION
	CLASS (IIC) RATING OF NOT LESS THAN 50 (45 IF FIELD
	TESTED) WHEN TESTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ASTM E-492.
	(TEST SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW IS FOR TILE. PROVIDE TEST
	FOR ENGINEERED WOOD/UNDERLAYMENT ASSEMBLY).

	1B) FBC-B 2020 1207.2 AIR-BORNE SOUND. WALLS,
	PARTITIONS AND FLOOR/CEILING ASSEMBLIES SEPARATING
	DWELLING UNITS FROM EACH OTHER OR FROM PUBLIC OR
	SERVICE AREAS SHALL HAVE A SOUND TRANSMISSION CLASS
	(STC) OF NOT LESS THAN 50 (45 IF FIELD TESTED) FOR
	AIR-BORNE NOISE WHEN TESTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ASTM E
	90.
	(TEST SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW IS FOR TILE. PROVIDE TEST
	FOR ENGINEERED WOOD/UNDERLAYMENT ASSEMBLY).

	1C) FLAME SPREAD- (ASTM E-84 WAS TESTED USING PROFLEX
	SUPER SIM-90. THIS TEST IS ACCEPTABLE IF THE SAME
	UNDERLAYMENT IS USED FOR ASTM E-492 AND E-90.
	IF ANOTHER UNDERLAYMENT IS USED FOR THE TWO SOUND
	TEST'S, PROVIDE A COPY OF THE E-84 FOR THAT
	UNDERLAYMENT).

	NEW COMMENTS:

	I HAVE RESEARCHED THE CITY'S LIBRARY OF ASTM TEST
	REPORTS AND COULD NOT LOCATE ANY FOR ENGINEERED WOOD
	FLOORING. REQUEST THESE REPORTS FROM YOUR SUPPLIER AND
	SUBMIT FOR REVIEW.

	PLEASE NOTE THAT SUBMITTAL OF ADDITIONAL AND/OR REVISED
	MATERIALS MAY RESULT IN NEW PLAN REVIEW COMMENTS.

Review Stop	B			BUILDING (STRUCTURAL)
Rev No	1	Status	F	Date	2022-05-25			Cont ID
Sent By	jwitmer			Date	2022-05-25	Time	15:30	Rev Time	0.00
Received By	jwitmer			Date	2022-05-25	Time	15:12	Sent To

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2022-05-25 15:30:54	WEST PALM BEACH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES-CONSTRUCTION
	SERVICES/ BUILDING DIVISION
	2020 FBC- BUILDING PLAN REVIEW
	W. P. B. PERMIT: 22050823
	ADD: 400 N FLAGLER DR. # 1104
	CONT: RICHARD MCDONALD CONSTRUCTION
	TEL: 561-795-4055
	E-MAIL: [email protected]

	2020 FLORIDA BUILDING CODE W 2020 WEST PALM BEACH
	AMENDMENTS TO THE FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, CHAPTER 1,
	ADMINISTRATION

	2020 EXISTING BUILDING CODE. 801.3 COMPLIANCE. ALL NEW
	CONSTRUCTION ELEMENTS, COMPONENTS, SYSTEMS, AND SPACES
	SHALL COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE FLORIDA
	BUILDING CODE, BUILDING.

	1ST REVIEW
	DATE: WED. MAY 25/2022
	ACTION: DENIED


	1) SUBMITTED TEST REPORT FOR USE 8 INCH CONCRETE SLAB
	FLOOR CEILING ASSEMBLY OVERLAID WITH:
	QUARRY TILE OVER PROFLEX MSC 90 MEGA SOUND CONTROL
	MEMBRANE UNDERLAYMENT. PLEASE NOTE ON PAGE 2 OF SAID
	REPORT FLOOR-CEILING ASSEMBLY CONSISTING OF BELOW THE 8
	INCH CONCRETE SLAB SUSPENDED CEILING SYSTEM CONTAINING
	5/8 INCH GYPSUM BOARD AND 3 ? INCHES OF LAY IN
	INSULATION.

	SHEET A-1 INDICATES THE INSTALLATION OF NEW
	ENGINEERED(LAMINATE) WOOD FLOORING, THE FLOORING AND
	UNDERLAYMENT MUST BE TESTED AS AN ASSEMBLY, NOT A TILE
	REPORT AND UNDERLAYMENT THEN INSTALLING LAMINATE
	FLOORING.

	FLOOR INSULATION/ UNDERLAYMENT (FBC-B 2020) FOR TILE,
	STONE, MARBLE, VINYL (LYT/ LYP), LAMINATE FLOORING AND
	WOOD FLOORING ALL NEED TO HAVE HAD THE SOUND
	UNDERLAYMENT TESTED FLOOR ASSEMBLIES TO THE FOLLOWING
	STANDARDS AND MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS LISTED UNDER EACH
	OF THE STANDARDS FOR A 6 INCH CONCRETE FLOOR ASSEMBLY/
	NO DROPPED CEILING:
	PLEASE PROVIDE ALL THREE TEST REPORTS FOR TYPE I AND OR
	TYPE II BUILDINGS SHOWING COMPLIANCE WITH:

	1A) FBC-B 2020 1207.3 STRUCTURE-BORNE SOUND.
	FLOOR/CEILING ASSEMBLIES BETWEEN DWELLING UNITS OR
	BETWEEN A DWELLING UNIT AND A PUBLIC OR SERVICE AREA
	WITHIN THE STRUCTURE SHALL HAVE AN IMPACT INSULATION
	CLASS (IIC) RATING OF NOT LESS THAN 50 (45 IF FIELD
	TESTED) WHEN TESTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ASTM E-492.

	1B) FBC-B 2020 1207.2 AIR-BORNE SOUND. WALLS,
	PARTITIONS AND FLOOR/CEILING ASSEMBLIES SEPARATING
	DWELLING UNITS FROM EACH OTHER OR FROM PUBLIC OR
	SERVICE AREAS SHALL HAVE A SOUND TRANSMISSION CLASS
	(STC) OF NOT LESS THAN 50 (45 IF FIELD TESTED) FOR
	AIR-BORNE NOISE WHEN TESTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ASTM E
	90.

	1C) FLAME SPREAD- FBC-B 2020 603.1. EXCEPTION 2.
	INSULATION INSTALLED BETWEEN A FINISHED FLOOR AND SOLID
	DECKING WITHOUT INTERVENING AIRSPACE SHALL BE ALLOWED
	TO HAVE A FLAME SPREAD INDEX OF NOT MORE THAN 200.

	FLAME SPREAD INDEX. A COMPARATIVE MEASURE, EXPRESSED AS
	A DIMENSIONLESS NUMBER, DERIVED FROM VISUAL
	MEASUREMENTS OF THE SPREAD OF FLAME VERSUS TIME FOR A
	MATERIAL TESTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH ASTM E 84 OR UL 723.
	2) A TRANSMITTAL LETTER / NARRATIVE LISTING THE
	ORIGINAL REVIEW COMMENT NUMBER, WITH A DESCRIPTION OF
	THE REVISION MADE, IDENTIFYING THE SHEET OR
	SPECIFICATION PAGE WHERE THE CHANGES CAN BE FOUND WILL
	HELP TO EXPEDITE YOUR PERMIT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
	ANTICIPATED COOPERATION.

	PLEASE NOTE WITH THE LACK OF INFORMATION FOR THIS
	REVIEW, SUBSEQUENT REMARKS MAYBE MADE IN THE NEXT
	REVIEW CYCLE.


	MY WORK HOURS ARE USUALLY TUES. & WED. 7:30 AM- 4:30 PM
	PART-TIME/ SEMI-RETIRED.

	IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK WITH A PLANS EXAMINER BEFORE I GET
	BACK INTO THE OFFICE CALL
	(561)805-6700 AND ASK FOR THE PLANS EXAMINER ON-CALL.
	THANK YOU.

	JAMES A. WITMER BN, PX, SFP, CBO
	SENIOR COMMERCIAL COMBINATION PLANS EXAMINER
	CONSTRUCTION SERVICES DIVISION / DEVELOPMENT SERVICES
	DEPARTMENT
	401 CLEMATIS ST. WEST PALM BEACH. FL 33402
	TEL: 561-805-6717
	FAX: 561-805-6676
	E-MAIL: [email protected]

Review Stop	FIRE			FIRE DEPARTMENT
Rev No	2	Status	P	Date	2022-06-14			Cont ID
Sent By	pleduc			Date	2022-06-14	Time		Rev Time	0.00
Received By	pleduc			Date	2022-06-14	Time	12:09	Sent To

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Review Stop	FIRE			FIRE DEPARTMENT
Rev No	1	Status	F	Date	2022-06-13			Cont ID
Sent By	pleduc			Date	2022-05-17	Time		Rev Time	0.00
Received By	pleduc			Date	2022-05-17	Time	15:05	Sent To

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2022-05-17 15:07:53	THIS PLAN WAS REVIEWED AND FAILED BY PETER LEDUC, FIRE
	MARSHAL, WITH THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS:

	1) THERE IS AN INDICATION OF THE SPEC SHEET FOR THE
	FLOOR UNDERLAYMENT, BUT NO SPEC SHEET NOR A PRODUCT
	NAME FOR THE ACTUAL PROPOSED NEW ENGINEERED WOOD
	FLOORING.

	NEW ENGINEERED WOOD FLOORING IS MANUFACTURED AROUND THE
	WORLD AND NOT ALL ARE TESTED AND MEETING LISTED AND
	NFPA STANDARDS.

	PER NFPA 101, CH 30

	30.3.3.3 INTERIOR FLOOR FINISH.
	30.3.3.1 GENERAL. INTERIOR FINISH SHALL BE IN
	ACCORDANCE WITH
	SECTION 10.2.

	10.2.7.2* FLOOR COVERINGS, OTHER THAN CARPET FOR WHICH
	10.2.2.2
	ESTABLISHES REQUIREMENTS FOR FIRE PERFORMANCE, SHALL
	HAVE A
	MINIMUM CRITICAL RADIANT FLUX OF 0.1 W/CM2.

	FOR THE OFFICIAL RECORD, PLEASE PROVIDE THE NEW
	ENGINEERED WOOD FLOORING NAME AND THE PRODUCT SPEC
	SHEETS OF THE PROPOSED FINISHED
	NEW ENGINEERED WOOD FLOORING INDICATING THE FIRE
	BEHAVIOR RATING.


	2) WHEN RESUBMITTING, PLEASE PROVIDE PLAN SHEET
	REVISION CLOUDS OR NUMBERED NARRATIVE RESPONSES TO THE
	ABOVE.


	3) ADDITIONAL COMMENTS MAY BE PROVIDED ON THE
	RE-SUBMITTAL OF THE ABOVE.


	PETER LEDUC
	FIRE MARSHAL
	561-804-4709
	[email protected]

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Rev No	2	Status	N	Date	2022-06-22			Cont ID
Sent By	cthroop			Date	2022-06-22	Time	11:28	Rev Time	0.00
Received By	cthroop			Date	2022-06-08	Time	16:40	Sent To

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Rev No	1	Status	N	Date	2022-05-25			Cont ID
Sent By	jwitmer			Date	2022-05-25	Time	15:31	Rev Time	0.00
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