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| 2023-01-19 14:08:14 | THE ATTACHED RESPNSE COMMENTS APPEAR TO BE ADDRESSING A |
| | FIRE LINE UNDERGROUND PERMIT AND DO NOT ADDRESS THE |
| | PREVIOUS FIRE COMMENTS OF THIS PERMIT WHICH ARE |
| | PROVIDED BELOW. |
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| | PLEASE REVIEW AND ENSURE THE BELOW COMMENTS ARE |
| | ADDRESSED AS APPLICABLE. |
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| | THIS PLAN WAS REVIEWED AND FAILED BY PETER LEDUC, FIRE |
| | MARSHAL, WITH THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS: |
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| | 1) THERE IS AN INDICATION OF A PROPOSED ELECTRIC FIRE |
| | PUMP. |
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| | THERE IS NO INDICATION OF THE BACK-UP POWER SUPPLY TO |
| | THIS PUMP AS REQUIRED BY NFPA 20. |
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| | 9.3 ALTERNATE POWER. |
| | 9.3.1 EXCEPT FOR AN ARRANGEMENT DESCRIBED IN 9.3.3, AT |
| | LEAST |
| | ONE ALTERNATE SOURCE OF POWER SHALL BE PROVIDED WHERE |
| | THE |
| | HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE IS BEYOND THE PUMPING CAPACITY |
| | OF THE |
| | FIRE DEPARTMENT APPARATUS. |
| | 9.3.2* OTHER SOURCES. EXCEPT FOR AN ARRANGEMENT |
| | DESCRIBED IN |
| | 9.3.3, AT LEAST ONE ALTERNATE SOURCE OF POWER SHALL BE |
| | PROVIDED |
| | WHERE THE NORMAL SOURCE IS NOT RELIABLE. |
| | 9.3.3 AN ALTERNATE SOURCE OF POWER FOR THE PRIMARY FIRE |
| | PUMP |
| | SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED WHERE A BACKUP ENGINE-DRIVEN FIRE |
| | PUMP, |
| | BACKUP STEAM TURBINE-DRIVEN FIRE PUMP, OR BACKUP |
| | ELECTRIC |
| | MOTOR???DRIVEN FIRE PUMP WITH INDEPENDENT POWER SOURCE |
| | MEET ING 9.2.2 IS INSTALLED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS |
| | STANDARD. |
| | 9.3.4 WHERE PROVIDED, THE ALTERNATE SOURCE OF POWER |
| | SHALL BE |
| | SUPPLIED FROM ONE OF THE FOLLOWING SOURCES: |
| | (1) A GENERATOR INSTALLED IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION |
| | 9.6 |
| | (2) ONE OF THE SOURCES IDENTIFIED IN 9.2.2(1), |
| | 9.2.2(2), 9.2.2(3), |
| | OR 9.2.2(5) WHERE THE POWER IS PROVIDED INDEPENDENT OF |
| | THE |
| | NORMAL SOURCE OF POWER |
| | 9.3.5 WHERE PROVIDED, THE ALTERNATE SUPPLY SHALL BE |
| | ARRANGED |
| | SO THAT THE POWER TO THE FIRE PUMP IS NOT DISRUPTED |
| | WHEN OVER HEAD LINES ARE DE-ENERGIZED FOR FIRE |
| | DEPARTMENT OPERATIONS. |
| | |
| | PLEASE PROVIDE THE DETAILS OF THE BACK-UP POWER SUPPLY |
| | TO THIS FIRE PUMP IN COMPLIANCE WITH NFPA. |
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| | 2) THERE APPEARS TO BE INDICATIONS OF FIRE SPRINKLER |
| | HEADS AT ROOF LEVEL AT THE TOP OF THE ELEVATOR SHAFTS |
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| | PER NFPA 13 |
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| | 8.15.5.3 AUTOMATIC FIRE SPRINKLERS SHALL NOT BE |
| | REQUIRED IN ELEVATOR MACHINE ROOMS, ELEVATOR |
| | MACHINERY SPACES, CONTROL SPACES, OR HOISTWAYS OF |
| | TRACTION ELEVATORS INSTALLED IN ACCORDANCE |
| | WITH THE APPLICABLE PROVISIONS IN NFPA 101, OR THE |
| | APPLICABLE BUILDING CODE, WHERE ALL OF THE |
| | FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET: |
| | (1) THE ELEVATOR MACHINE ROOM, MACHINERY SPACE, CONTROL |
| | ROOM, CONTROL SPACE, OR HOISTWAY OF |
| | TRACTION ELEVATOR IS DEDICATED TO ELEVATOR EQUIPMENT |
| | ONLY. |
| | (2) THE ELEVATOR MACHINE ROOM, MACHINE ROOM, MACHINERY |
| | SPACE, CONTROL ROOM, CONTROL |
| | SPACE, OR HOISTWAY OF TRACTION ELEVATORS ARE PROTECTED |
| | BY SMOKE DETECTORS, OR OTHER AUTO MATIC FIRE DETECTION, |
| | INSTALLED IN ACCORDANCE WITH NFPA 72. |
| | (3) THE ELEVATOR MACHINERY SPACE, CONTROL ROOM, CONTROL |
| | SPACE, OR HOISTWAY OF TRACTION ELEVA TORS IS SEPARATED |
| | FROM THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING BY WALLS AND |
| | FLOOR/CEILING OR ROOF/ |
| | CEILING ASSEMBLIES HAVING A FIRE RESISTANCE RATING OF |
| | NOT LESS THAN THAT SPECIFIED BY THE |
| | APPLICABLE BUILDING CODE. |
| | (4) NO MATERIALS UNRELATED TO ELEVATOR EQUIPMENT ARE |
| | PERMITTED TO BE STORED IN ELEVATOR |
| | MACHINE ROOMS, MACHINERY SPACES, CONTROL ROOMS, CONTROL |
| | SPACES, OR HOISTWAYS OF TRAC TION ELEVATORS. |
| | (5) THE ELEVATOR MACHINERY IS NOT OF THE HYDRAULIC TYPE |
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| | PLEASE REIVEW AND PROVIDE DETAILED INDICATIONS THAT |
| | THEY ARE REQUIRED OR NOT REQUIRED AT THE TOP OF THE |
| | ELEVATOR SHAFTS |
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| | |
| | 3) THERE APPEARS TO BE INDICATIONS OF A FIRE SPRINKLER |
| | HEAD AT THE ROOFTOP ELEV. RM 2. |
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| | PER NFPA 13 |
| | |
| | 8.15.5.3 AUTOMATIC FIRE SPRINKLERS SHALL NOT BE |
| | REQUIRED IN ELEVATOR MACHINE ROOMS, ELEVATOR |
| | MACHINERY SPACES, CONTROL SPACES, OR HOISTWAYS OF |
| | TRACTION ELEVATORS INSTALLED IN ACCORDANCE |
| | WITH THE APPLICABLE PROVISIONS IN NFPA 101, OR THE |
| | APPLICABLE BUILDING CODE, WHERE ALL OF THE |
| | FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ARE MET: |
| | (1) THE ELEVATOR MACHINE ROOM, MACHINERY SPACE, CONTROL |
| | ROOM, CONTROL SPACE, OR HOISTWAY OF |
| | TRACTION ELEVATOR IS DEDICATED TO ELEVATOR EQUIPMENT |
| | ONLY. |
| | (2) THE ELEVATOR MACHINE ROOM, MACHINE ROOM, MACHINERY |
| | SPACE, CONTROL ROOM, CONTROL |
| | SPACE, OR HOISTWAY OF TRACTION ELEVATORS ARE PROTECTED |
| | BY SMOKE DETECTORS, OR OTHER AUTO MATIC FIRE DETECTION, |
| | INSTALLED IN ACCORDANCE WITH NFPA 72. |
| | (3) THE ELEVATOR MACHINERY SPACE, CONTROL ROOM, CONTROL |
| | SPACE, OR HOISTWAY OF TRACTION ELEVA TORS IS SEPARATED |
| | FROM THE REMAINDER OF THE BUILDING BY WALLS AND |
| | FLOOR/CEILING OR ROOF/ |
| | CEILING ASSEMBLIES HAVING A FIRE RESISTANCE RATING OF |
| | NOT LESS THAN THAT SPECIFIED BY THE |
| | APPLICABLE BUILDING CODE. |
| | (4) NO MATERIALS UNRELATED TO ELEVATOR EQUIPMENT ARE |
| | PERMITTED TO BE STORED IN ELEVATOR |
| | MACHINE ROOMS, MACHINERY SPACES, CONTROL ROOMS, CONTROL |
| | SPACES, OR HOISTWAYS OF TRAC TION ELEVATORS. |
| | (5) THE ELEVATOR MACHINERY IS NOT OF THE HYDRAULIC TYPE |
| | |
| | PLEASE REIVEW AND PROVIDE DETAILED INDICATIONS THAT |
| | THEY ARE REQUIRED OR NOT REQUIRED AT THE ROOF TOP |
| | ELEVATOR RM. |
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| | 4) WHEN RESUBMITTING, PLEASE PROVIDE PLAN SHEET |
| | REVISION CLOUDS OR NUMBERED NARRATIVE RESPONSES TO THE |
| | ABOVE. |
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| | 5) ADDITIONAL COMMENTS MAY BE PROVIDED ON THE |
| | RE-SUBMITTAL OF THE ABOVE. |
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| | PETER LEDUC |
| | FIRE MARSHAL |
| | 561-804-4709 |
| | [email protected] |
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