Plan Review Notes
Plan Review Notes For Permit 09020319
Permit Number 09020319
Review Stop E
Sequence Number 2
Notes
Date Text
2009-06-11 16:24:44 
 ** DENIED 2ND REVIEW**
  
 ** THIS IS THE FIRST REVIEW UNDER PERMIT APPLICATION.
  
 ** THERE ARE STILL COMMENTS FROM PREVIOUS REVIEW WHICH
 ARE IN NEED OF ADDRESSING. THERE ARE ALSO SEVERAL NEW
 COMMENTS BASED ON INFORMATION ONLY NOW SUBMITTED FOR
 REVIEW.
  
  
  
 1) NOTE: PLEASE SEE FBC CHAPTER 13 2007 EDITION WITH
 2009 GLITCH AMENDMENTS. THIS CHAPTER WAS COMPLETELY
 REVISED FROM THE FIRST PRINTING OF THE 2007 FBC. THERE
 ARE SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES WHICH WILL AFFECT THIS PROJECT.
  
 PLEASE SUBMIT LIGHTING PERFORMANCE CALCULATIONS PER
 13-415.AB.5. THIS IS NOT A WHOLE BUILDING AS DEFINED IN
 SECTION 202. THE METHOD WHICH MUST BE USED IS METHOD
 *B* FOR SPACE BY SPACE. THE SUBMITTED CALCULATIONS AND
 THE INPUT DATA REPORT IS NOT CODE COMPLIANCE.
 THIS REQUIRES THE SPACES TO BE LISTED AND CHOSEN FOR
 THE USE AND LOCATION. THERE ARE NUMEROUS EXAMPLES WHERE
 THE SPACE DESIGNATION GIVEN WAS FOR AN EMERGENCY ROOM
 WHEN THE SPACE OR LOCATION IS SOMETHING OTHER LIKE A
 JANITOR CLOSET, EXAM ROOM, NURSE STATION, TOILET ETC.
 THE DESIGNATION AND ALLOWANCE IS BASED ON THE LOCATION
 AND USE. THE TOILET MAY NO BE CALLED AN EMERGENCY ROOM
 TO USE THE ALLOWANCE OF 2.7 WHEN THE CODE HAS AN
 ALLOWANCE OF .09. ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE CORRIDOR
 WHICH IS SHOWN FOR A 2.7 ALLOWANCE AND WHEN HOSPITAL
 CORRIDOR HAS AN ALLOWANCE OF 1.0.
 THERE ARE MANY DESIGNATIONS WHICH MAY NOT BE USED.
 PLEASE ALSO CHECK THE CONTROL TYPE. THERE ARE SEVERAL
 LISTED AS * EXCEPTION FOR AREA USED AS A WHOLE*. PLEASE
 PROVIDE WHERE IN THE CODE THESE AREAS ARE LISTED.
  
  
 2) NOTE: ALL WORKING CLEARANCE SHALL MEET 110.26. BASED
 ON THE NURSE STATION ELEVATION ALONE THERE ARE SEVERAL
 ITEMS WHICH REQUIRE CLEARANCE HOWEVER DO NOT MEET THE
 SECTIONS.
 THE RESPONSE MENTIONS THE EXCEPTION IN 110.26. PLEASE
 EXPLAIN HOW THIS MEETS THE EXCEPTION. IT DOES NOT MEET
 THE EXCEPTION. IT IS CLEAR AN ELECTRICIAN COULD VERY
 WELL NEED TO CHECK FOR VOLTAGE, CIRCUIT TRACING AND
 NUMEROUS OTHER TASKS IN WHICH POWER WOULD BE PRESENT
 FOR TROUBLE SHOOTING. THESE PANELS MUST MEET
 CLEARANCES. THE EXCEPTION MAY NOT BE USED.
  
 3) NOTE: PLEASE SEE 240.12,700.27, 701.18. PLEASE
 PROVIDE COMPLETE SELECTIVE COORDINATION FOR SYSTEMS
 INCLUDING NEW EQUIPMENT BEING INSTALLED. THIS STUDY
 NEEDS TO INCLUDE TIME CURVES. SOME INFORMATION SHOWN
 AND SUBMITTED HOWEVER BASED ON E7.01 NOT MATCHING RISER
 COMPLETELY AND NOT TIME CURVES SUBMITTED IT IS NOT
 KNOWN IF MINIMUM CODE COMPLIANCE IS MET. SEE COMMENT #8
 ALSO.
 ** THIS IS A REPEATED COMMENT. THE RESPONSE MENTIONS TO
 SEE THE ATTACHED STUDY WHICH WAS SUBMITTED TO ACHA.
 THERE ARE NO STAMPS ON THE SUBMITTED DOCUMENTATION. IT
 IS ALSO NOT CLEAR HOW THE STUDY SUBMITTED ALONG WITH
 THE TIME CURVES WOULD PASS THE REVIEW FROM ACHA WHEN
 THERE ARE INCONSISTENCIES FROM THE RISER AND PLANS.
 ONE EXAMPLE OF THIS IS THE FACT THE CONDUCTORS ON STUDY
 RISER TO BOTH TRANSFORMERS T-EDCRL AND T-EDNL ARE 1/0
 ON SELECTIVE COORDINATION RISER AND #1 ON THE LISTED
 FEEDERS. SEE NOTES BELOW ALSO FOR THE COORDINATION OF
 ALL RISER EQUIPMENT.
 PLEASE SEE THE TIME CURVES SUBMITTED ARE INDICATING A
 VERY CLOSE AND ALSO OVER-LAPPING ON SEVERAL ITEMS.
 PLEASE SUBMIT THE REVIEWED AND STAMPED SETS FROM ACHA.
  
 4) NOTE: PLEASE SEE 517.17. PLEASE PROVIDE COMPLIANCE
 BY SHOWING THE PROTECTION OF SYSTEM. THE RESPONSE
 MENTIONS THIS IS REVISED ON RISER HOWEVER THE RISER
 ONLY INDICATES TWO ITEMS WITH THE GFCI PROTECTION.
 PLEASE SEE THE SECTION OF THE CODE GIVEN ABOVE WHICH
 REQUIRES THE PROTECTION OF OTHER LOCATIONS.
 ** THE INTENT IS NOT TO HAVE A SINGLE SITUATION CAUSE A
 SHUT DOWN OF A MAIN. IT WOULD BE BETTER TO LOSE ONE
 PANEL THAN THE ENTIRE RISER FEED. THE FOLLOWING IS THE
 EXACT WORDING TAKEN FROM THE NEC.
  
 ****WHEREVER GROUND-FAULT PROTECTION OF EQUIPMENT IS
 APPLIED TO THE SERVICE PROVIDING POWER TO A HEALTH CARE
 FACILITY, WHETHER BY DESIGN OR BY REASON OF THE
 REQUIREMENTS OF 215.10 OR 230.95, AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL
 OF GROUND-FAULT PROTECTION IS REQUIRED DOWNSTREAM.
 UNDER THIS RULE, GROUND-FAULT PROTECTION MUST BE
 APPLIED TO EVERY FEEDER, AND ADDITIONAL GROUND-FAULT
 PROTECTIVE DEVICES MAY BE APPLIED FARTHER DOWNSTREAM AT
 THE OPTION OF THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE HEALTH CARE
 FACILITY. UNLIKE THE REQUIREMENTS OF 215.10 AND 230.95
 WHERE MANDATORY GFPE PROTECTION IS PREDICATED ON THE
 RATING OF THE DISCONNECTING MEANS (1000 AMPERES OR
 MORE), THE SECOND LEVEL OF GFPE IS NOT BASED ON THE
 RATING OF THE FEEDER DISCONNECTING MEANS, BECAUSE THE
 FUNCTION OF THE SECOND LEVEL OF GFPE IS TO PROVIDE THE
 DESIRED SELECTIVITY BETWEEN THE FEEDER PROTECTIVE
 DEVICES AND THE SERVICE OR BUILDING SUPPLY PROTECTIVE
 DEVICES.
 WITH PROPER COORDINATION, THIS ADDITIONAL GROUND-FAULT
 PROTECTION IS INTENDED TO LIMIT A GROUND FAULT TO A
 SINGLE FEEDER AND THEREBY PREVENT A TOTAL POWER OUTAGE
 OF THE ENTIRE HEALTH FACILITY. COORDINATION INCLUDES
 CONSIDERATION OF THE TRIP SETTING, THE TIME SETTING,
 AND THE TIME REQUIRED FOR OPERATION (OPENING TIME) OF
 EACH LEVEL OF THE GROUND-FAULT PROTECTION SYSTEM.
 *** PLEASE PROVIDE THE INFORMATION.
  
 5) NOTE: PLEASE GO THROUGH RISER, CONDUCTORS AND ALL
 OVER CURRENT PROTECTION DEVICES. THERE ARE ITEMS WHICH
 DO NOT COORDINATE.
 215.5, 110.9, 240.4, 310.16, 240.12 ETC THESE CODE
 SECTIONS ARE GIVEN IN GENERAL AS COORDINATION OF
 CONDUCTORS, OVER CURRENT PROTECTION, PANELS ETC EFFECT
 ALL SECTIONS.
 THIS IS A REPEAT COMMENT ARE THERE ARE ITEMS STILL NOT
 PROVIDED.
 AN EXAMPLE ABOVE WAS GIVEN FOR THE DIFFERENCES IN THE
 FEEDERS TO EACH TRANSFORMER.
 ANOTHER EXAMPLE WOULD BE THE PANEL SCHEDULE FOR EDEQH
 WHICH DOES NOT LIST ANY BRANCH BREAKER FOR THE FEEDERS
 TO THE TRANSFORMER.
 **THESE ARE TWO ITEMS GIVEN AS EXAMPLES ONLY.
  
 ONCE AUDIT/REVIEWS ARE COMPLETE AND PLANS ARE PICKED UP
 FOR CORRECTIONS, PLEASE BE SURE TO COMPLETELY REMOVE
 ALL OLD/VOIDED SHEETS AND ONLY INSERT NEW REVISED
 SHEETS INTO TWO COMPLETE SETS FOR REVIEW AND STAMPING.
 DO NOT LEAVE ANY OLD/VOIDED SHEETS IN SETS.
 PLEASE DO NOT ATTACH SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS TO PLANS. ANY
 ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTATION SUCH AS PRODUCT APPROVALS,
 SPEC/CUT SHEETS, CALCULATIONS ETC. SHOULD BE PLACED
 INTO TWO SETS/FOLDERS/BINDERS ETC.
 PLEASE KNOW ONLY ONE SET OF THE OLD/VOIDED SHEETS
 SHOULD BE SUBMITTED FOR REFERENCE.
 THIS WILL HELP IN THE AUDIT/REVIEW PROCESS AND AVOID
 ANY DELAYS.
  
 IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS; OR IF COMMENTS ARE NOT
 TYPED IN A CLEAR MANNER PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO
 CONTACT THIS REVIEWER.
  
 DEWEY PALMER
 ELECTRICAL PLAN REVIEW II
 CONSTRUCTION SERVICES DEPARTMENT
 CITY OF WEST PALM BEACH
 561-805-6717
 [email protected]
  


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