Plan Review Notes
Plan Review Notes For Permit 05091265
Permit Number 05091265
Review Stop M
Sequence Number 8
Notes
Date Text
2007-06-28 19:40:32RESPONSE TO LETTERS SUBMITTED BY STEVEN FELLER, PE
  
 LETTER 1:
 A) REGARDING THE LETTER RELATED TO REFRIGERANT
 QUANTITIES, THERE ARE INCONSISTENCIES BETWEEN THE
 ESTIMATED LINE LENGTHS AND THOSE SHOWN ON PLANS.
 EXAMPLE 1: RISER 1, 6TH FLOOR HAS AN ESTIMATED LINE
 LENGTH OF 70 FT. ON THE 6TH FLOOR THERE IS AN
 ADDITIONAL LENGTH (APPROXIMATELY 20 FT.) OF HORIZONTAL
 PIPE TO TRAVEL FROM APT A6 TO THE CHASE, WHICH DOES NOT
 APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT. ALSO ON RISER
 1, HOW IS THERE ONLY 20 FEET DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 6TH
 FLOOR AND THE 10TH FLOOR? THAT IS ONLY 5 FEET PER
 FLOOR.
 EXAMPLE 2: RISER 4 ON M2.04 SHOWS 43 FT OF HORIZONTAL
 PIPE WHICH DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT IN
 THE ESTIMATED LENGTH. ALSO, PLEASE PROVIDE COOLING LOAD
 CALCULATIONS FOR COMMERCIAL SPACES 1 AND 2 (ACCOUNTING
 FOR 1ST FLOOR AND MEZZANINE LEVELS) SHOWING 5 TONS TO
 BE SUFFICIENT FOR FUTURE USE OF THIS SPACE.
  
 B) WHY WERE NO CALCULATIONS GIVEN FOR RISER 2? NO SHAFT
 REQUIREMENT IS SHOWN ON THE CHART ON ANY LEVEL AND IT
 IS LIKELY TO HAVE A HIGHER QUANTITY OF REFRIGERANT THAN
 RISER 4.
  
 C) PLEASE PROVIDE A BASIS FOR THE REFRIGERANT
 QUANTITIES USED. THE REFRIGERANT CHARGE QUANTITIES
 SHOWN ON THE CALCULATIONS APPEAR TO BE BASED ON THE
 CARRIER MODEL 24ABR, WHICH IS THE EQUIPMENT SHOWN ON A
 RECENTLY SUBMITTED REVISED EQUIPMENT SCHEDULE. HOWEVER,
 THE EQUIPMENT SIZES SHOWN IN THE CALCULATIONS REFLECT
 THOSE ON THE PERMIT SET OF PLANS AND NOT THOSE ON THE
 REVISED SCHEDULE. PLEASE CLARIFY WHICH INFORMATION IS
 TO BE USED TO VERIFY THE CALCULATIONS.
  
 PLEASE SEE THE LATEST CARRIER LONG-LINE APPLICATION
 GUIDE WHICH STATES THE FACTORY CHARGE IS FOR THE FIRST
 15 FT AND 0.6 OZ SHALL BE ADDED FOR EACH ADDITIONAL
 FT.
  
 NOTE: THE DESIGN OF STARTING THE SHAFT CONSTRUCTION AT
 THE FLOOR LEVEL WHERE THE REFRIGERANT QUANTITY EXCEEDS
 THE ASHRAE 15 ALLOWABLE LIMIT IS AGREED TO IN CONCEPT,
 BUT A MORE ACCURATE DETERMINATION OF WHERE THAT LIMIT
 IS TO BE REACHED AT EACH RISER IS NEEDED.
  
 LETTER 2:
 THE USE OF A THROUGH-PENETRATION FIRESTOP SYSTEM AS
 STATED IN FBC 712.4.1.2 IS FOUND TO BE THE CORRECT
 APPLICATION FOR THE CONDITION WHEN THE REFRIGERANT
 CHASE IS NOT ENCLOSED IN A SHAFT. HOWEVER, THE DETAILS
 ON M6.02 OF THE PERMIT SET OF PLANS SHOWS TWO POSSIBLE
 SYSTEMS, NEITHER OF THEM ARE APPLICABLE TO THE FIELD
 CONDITIONS UNDER WHICH THEY WOULD BE EMPLOYED.
  
 THE FIRST SYSTEM FOR INSULATED PIPE CAN ONLY MEET THE
 ANNULAR SPACE LIMITATIONS SHOWN IN THE DETAIL IF THERE
 IS A SINGLE INSULATED PIPE IN A SINGLE, CORRECTLY SIZED
 FLOOR (OR WALL) OPENING. THE SIZE OF THE PIPE IS
 LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF 1? WHEN IN MANY CASES THE
 INSULATED PIPE WILL BE 1 1/8? OR POSSIBLY LARGER.
 PLEASE ALSO NOTE THAT 712.4.1.2 REQUIRES THAT THE
 THROUGH-PENETRATION FIRESTOP SYSTEM SHALL HAVE AN F AND
 T RATING NOT LESS THAN 1 HOUR BUT NOT LESS THAN THE
 REQUIRED RATING OF THE FLOOR BEING PENETRATED.
  
 THE SECOND SYSTEM IS LIMITED IN AREA AND CAN NOT HAVE A
 MAXIMUM DIMENSION OVER 24?. IT IS LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM
 OF 3 PIPES, NONE OF WHICH ARE SHOWN TO BE INSULATED.
 THIS SYSTEM ALSO DOES NOT MEET THE T RATING AS REQUIRED
 BY 712.4.1.2 AS IT STATES THE T RATING AT 0 HOUR.
  
 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE CONTACT:
 RONALD J REGUEIRO
 561.805.671.
 [email protected]
  


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