Plan Review Notes
Plan Review Notes For Permit 04031591
Permit Number 04031591
Review Stop G
Sequence Number 6
Notes
Date Text
2008-02-08 11:42:40PLAN REVIEW UNDER THE 2004 FLORIDA BUILDING CODES WITH
 2007 REVISIONS, CITY OF WEST PALM BEACH AMENDMENTS TO
 CHAPTER 1 (W.P.B.), FLORIDA ADMINISTRATIVE CODE
 (F.A.C.), AND FLORIDA STATUTES (F.S.).
  
 GAS PLAN REVIEW:
 REVISION DENIED:
  
  
 **PREVIOUS PLAN REVIEW COMMENTS**
  
 1. **NO COMMENT RESPONSE, COMMENT NOT ADDRESSED**
 SHEET P4.16: SUBMIT AN ISOMETRIC DRAWING THAT CLEARLY
 SHOWS ALL CUT SECTIONS OF PIPE
 AND CORRESPONDING LENGTHS PER FBC-2004
 FUEL GAS CODE SECTION *401.1 SCOPE.
 ***THE RESUBMITTED REVISION STILL ARE NOT CLEARLY
 INDICATING THE CORRESPONDING LENGTHS TO ALL CUT
 SECTIONS OF PIPE. PLESE REFERENCE THE RED CIRCLED AREA
 AND YELLOW HIGH LIGHTED PIPES WITH NO CORRESPONDING
 LENGTHS.
  
 ****NOTE: REVISED PLANS ARE DESIGNED FROM TRACPIPE
 FLEXIBLE GAS PIPING DESIGN GUIDE AND INSTALLATION
 INSTRUCTIONS SECTION 3.2D-ALTERNATE SIZING METHOD: SUM
 OF PRESSURE LOSS CALCULATIONS.
 (3) STARTING AT THE METER AND WORKING OUTWARD THE
 PRESSURE LOSS FOR EACH LEG IS SUMMED UP UNTIL THE
 FARTHEST APPLIANCE IS REACHED.
  
 ****THE REVISED GAS PLANS ARE NOT INDICATING THE
 PRESSURE LOSS FOR EACH LEG PER TRACPIPE DESIGN GUIDE
 NOR ARE THERE ANY CALCULATIONS BEING INDICATED FOR
 PRESSURE LOSS FOR EACH LEG. COMMENT #1 NEEDS TO BE
 ADDRESSED AND PRESSURE LOSS FOR EACH LEG NEEDS TO BE
 CALCULATED AND INDICATED ON THE PLANS.
  
 2. **OK** COMMENT ADDRESSED.
  
 3. **OK** COMMENT ADDRESSED.
  
 4. **OK** COMMENT ADDRESSED
  
 5. **NO COMMENT RESPONSE, NOTE: ITEMS A, B, C, AND D,
 HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED HOWEVER THERE ARE ISSUES WITH THE
 MP REGULATORS**
  
 AT A MINIMUM THE REVISED PLANS SHALL REFLECT WHAT IS
 INSTALLED AND THEY DO NOT. PLEASE CORRECT THE PLANS TO
 REFLECT THE FOLLOWING ON ALL AREAS OF THE PLAN SHEET.
 PER FBC FUEL GAS SECTION *401.1, SCOPE.
  
 "APPLIANCE LOAD TABLE"
  
 A- **OK** COMMENT ADDRESSED
  
 B- **OK** COMMENT ADDRESSED
  
 C- **OK** COMMENT ADDRESSED.
  
 D- **OK** COMMENT ADDRESSED.
  
 ****NOTE: THERE ARE STILL CONCERNS WITH THE MP
 REGULATORS.
  
 NOTE: PER MAXITROL ([email protected]) THE 325-7 IS
 ONLY RATED FOR 900,000 BTU'S. THE 325-7 WOULD NEED A
 MINIMUM OF 1 PSI ON THE INLET AND THE 210 CAN WORK AT
 14" W.C.PRESSURE. THE 210 SERIES IS NOT A DEAD END LOCK
 UP.
  
 ****RESUBMITTED REVISED PLANS ARE INDICATING ONLY
 700,000 BTU'S FOR THE POOL/SPA HEATERS, HOWEVER
 MAXITROL STATES FROM THEIR TEC SUPPORT THAT THERE
 REGULATORS SHOULD NOT BE USED. AT THE CAPACITIES BEING
 USED ON THIS SYSTEM THEY DO NOT MAKE A DEAD END LOCKUP
 REGULATOR. A BETTER CHOICE WOULD BE ANOTHER COMPANY
 SUCH AS ACTARIS OR INVENSYS.
  
 **WITH THE FACTS BEING STATED FROM MAXITROL NEITHER
 REGULATOR IS ACCEPTABLE DUE TO THE PRESSURE LOSS OF THE
 SYSTEM (42.024 WATER COL. PRESSURE DROP OF SYSTEM WHICH
 LEAVES LESS THAN 0.5 PSI AT THE REGULATORS), LOAD
 CAPACITY OF REGULATORS (325-7 RATED 900,000 BTU), AND
 210 SERIES NOT BEING A DEAD END LOCK UP, WHICH MEANS
 UNDER STATIC CONDITIONS WHEN NO GAS IS FLOWING, OUTLET
 PRESSURE WILL RISE TO LINE PRESSURE.
  
 ****PER TRACPIPE DESIGN GUIDE: FOR A 2 PSI SYSTEM, THE
 PROPER DROP IS USUALLY 1 PSI FOR THIS PART OF THE
 SYSTEM.
 NOTE: THE REVISED GAS RISER DESIGN PRESSURE LOSS
 INDICATED ON THE PLANS IS 42.024 WATER COL., 1 PSI
 WATER COL IS 28. PER TRACPIPE DESIGN GUIDE THE REVISED
 GAS SYSTEM EXCEEDS THERE LIMIT BY 14.024 WATER COL.
  
 **IT IS SUGGESTED THAT SYSTEM DELIVERY PRESSURE BE
 INCREASE TO 5 PSI AND THE PROPER MP REGULATORS BE
 INSTALLED AFTER CONFERRING WITH THE MANUFACTURER. THREE
 COPIES OF THE MP REGULATOR MANUFACTURER'S SPECIFICATION
 SHEETS WITH THE MAKE, MODEL NUMBER, BTU LOAD CAPACITY,
 AND A LISTING FROM A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED TESTING
 LABORATORY ARE REQUIRED.
  
 6. **OK** COMMENT ADDRESSED.
  
 7. **OK** COMMENT ADDRESSED
  
 ********IMPORTANT INFORMATION********
 WHEN RESUBMITTING PLANS, PLEASE INDICATE THE REVISION
 AND REMOVE & REPLACE ANY PAGES AS NECESSARY. A
 TRANSMITTAL LETTER LISTING THE ORIGINAL REVIEW COMMENT
 NUMBER, WITH A DESCRIPTION OF THE REVISION MADE,
 IDENTIFYING THE SHEET OR SPECIFICATION PAGE WHERE
 CHANGES CAN BE FOUND WILL HELP TO EXPEDITE YOUR PERMIT.
 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANTICIPATED COOPERATION.
 NOTE: THERE IS ONLY ONE CORRECTED DRAWING
 IN RED INK ON THE INDICATED PLAN SHEETS BY THIS PLANS
 EXAMINER FOR REFERENCE FOR THE
 RESUBMITTAL.
  
 END OF COMMENTS:
  
 REVIEW BY: MIKE PERSON
 PLUMBING PLANS EXAMINER
 PHONE= (561) 805-6730
 FAX= (561) 805-6731
 E-MAIL= [email protected]


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